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  Forum Index - General Modding - this was going to be hush hush but it's giving me
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SqueeMonkey
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Joined: Jul 6, 2007
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Post Subject: this was going to be hush hush but it's giving me
Posted on: Jul 12, 2007
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My Idea (please dont steal this and sell it :( I'm doing this for all of us and not for corporate bull shit) was for a gelatinous substance that will dissipate heat and be non conductive... now the application of it is where people should go "oh... wow" remember back to the fish tank toys that you could suspend stuff in the gel before it fully set? Do you never want to have another cable management issue, or cut yourself trying to fabricate a braket for god knows where to hold LED's or cathodes? Bada Bing! suspend your LED's in gel and aim them where you want. I've tested so many solutions that my brain aches... Help me out with this.

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piratedninja
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Joined: Sep 20, 2006
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Jul 12, 2007


gel, actually remains a solid for a very short amount of time, and also needs to be kept cold

the fish tank stuff actually hardens overtime leaving you with a big block of plastic because its actually resin

if you can turn some non conductive material into gel and still keep it non conductive then maybe this idea would work

actually, i just got a pretty good idea:
submerge a computer in a tank of pure H20 and freeze it
this way the cpu temperature will always be below 0 and you wouldnt have to worry about cable management or the water being contaminated and becoming conductive

of course you would need to keep it frozen 24/7 for this to work but other than that its pretty much the best way to do it IMO


using gel would NOT work because it will simply melt under the heat from the cpu


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SqueeMonkey
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Post Subject: I might still toy around with it
Posted on: Jul 13, 2007


So I might just be able to use resin and not fill the case with it. possibly a real REAL thick window with some computer chips floating in it... TIME FREEZE CASE... I want to see something like this from a few people... Keep it free, Keep it safe.


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faceless105
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Jul 13, 2007


this is one you know that i'll be looking for :)


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squeemonkey
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Post Subject: I'm "Working" right now
Posted on: Jul 13, 2007


I dont yet have an internet connection at home, so I borrow the one at work while I'm... OK so I get paid to screw around on here for a while each day heheheh I got it OK'ed due to the product reviews and up to date info on new hardware and build techniques... slimy I know. OK so I'm using photochop to build my idea and I must say this might turn out very well... I'm going to leave it at that.


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piratedninja
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Jul 14, 2007


im not sure if resin will do the job since its going to turn into a huge chunk of plastic which is an insulator meaning it will trap the heat inside making the cpu only get hotter than it normally does


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SqueeMonkey
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Post Subject: the partial solution
Posted on: Jul 17, 2007


OK so I've started to hammer out ideas, I've always wanted to build an interesting custom water cooler. IDEA. Water cool the most heat sensitive devices, build a 1:1 scale that I can form fit, make the LUDICROUSLY THICK WINDOW!!! With spare parts stuck in it in an exploded fashion. Now I warn you, I might hold off on this build until I get a real good camera because I want to make a step by step of everything I do this time.


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piratedninja
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Jul 17, 2007


making a custom watercooler is a much better idea than surrounding a motherboard in resin lol

however you will still need to buy the actual blocks for the cpu and other devices as well as a pump
everything else you can certainly make at home

heres another idea if you really want to get creative:
buy a $10 10gallon fish tank from walmart and then make an acrylic enclosure for the motherboard and attach it to the bottom of the fish tank
and make sure no water can get inside the motherboard enclosure when the tank is filled with water

then make all the necessary holes and put the hoses through and seal the edges of the acrylic around the hoses

the rest should be simple

after setting it all up fill the tank with water making sure none of it gets inside the motherboard part

and buy those small plastic fish that swim around and maybe an airpump with airstone for an added effect

then power it all up and be amazed at the brilliant idea i just gave you

LOL


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SqueeMonkey
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Post Subject: if I did this properly I could keep my turtle
Posted on: Jul 18, 2007


I was going to put rocks in the case with an under rock filter and water pump, my live snapping turtle on one side of the case, make it wide and "float" the motherboard in the middle. Then put ghost fish in the second half behind the board... so a thin 2x ATX case made of acrylic and time... But that is just for the water cooled case idea. The time freeze case will be a bit different. I'll have some kind of idea's drawn up this weekend... Just dont know if I'll have them posted yet.


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drmaxsteel
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Joined: Aug 30, 2007
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Aug 30, 2007


This is interesting!

Here are 3 ideas:

Blue ice: The same stuff used in the plastic cooler bricks.

Super absorbant: This stuff is great. It is a gel that absorbs water and can be used for everything from growing seeds to killing hurricaines.

Modding a small fridge to be a computer case. This has everything but an air dryer to cool a system. If you can solve cxondensation, you would have a cheap case to work with (comp cases can cost well over $100, while small fridges can be around $50 on sale!)


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sp00n
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Joined: Jul 5, 2007
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Aug 30, 2007


the only problem is that fridges cant handle the amount of constant heat that is being outputted my a comp. You would kill the fridge in 30 days due to the constant draw of power and use of freon.


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faceless105
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Aug 30, 2007


on the fridge, you could probably combo the fridge with a small dehumidifier


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squeemonkey
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Post Subject: keep the ideas rolling
Posted on: Aug 30, 2007


spoon raises a good point that I ran into playing with a "keg-o-rator" I had missed some part of the structure insulation and caused a hot air leak that blew the compressor. (NO it was not shoddy wiring because I checked that out and triple tested it) all was good until the third keg went in... by that point I was way to beyond 'inebriated' to even think about trying to fix it... the good news is, the beer warming up made us all freak out and drink it all... so none was lost :D.


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Slider388
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Joined: Jan 14, 2007
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Sep 19, 2007


One problem would be you couldn't use aircooling at all, and even if the gel dissipated heat, you'd need something taking the heat from the gel.

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faceless105
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Post Subject: subject
Posted on: Sep 19, 2007


one option would be to run a slightly modified water cooling setup and instead of running a heat block have it just run a few copper pipes through the gel, that should really take care of the heat. but then if you did that, it might make you ask, why bother do the gel if i already have a water cooling system in the rig


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squeemonkey
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Posted on: Sep 19, 2007


eh. There's still some chemistry professors that I want to discuss this with. The guy at kent state seems to be unstable enough to suit my ideas. He'll also be able to point me in the direction of finding sources for stuff because trust me on this one, when you start buying the basic building blocks of C-4 in quantities enough to fill a computer case, people start asking questions and denying your credit cards. I guess it was the purchase from a few years back on two gallons of nitric acid then a more recent purchase on five gallons of glycerin that made someone somewhere pull a background check and past education records. heheheh I guess it's good to be thorough these days.


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